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Heat Pump vs Oil Boiler. It's a no brainer.
#oilboiler #heatgeek #heatpumps
In this video, I take you through a retrofit installation of an air source heat pump from Vaillant. We replace an oil boiler with Vaillant Arotherm Plus 5kW heat pump and discuss the improvements to the new set up over the existing oil boiler in terms of comfort and running cost.
Link to this system Open Energy Monitor Page:
emoncms.org/app/view?name=MyHeatpump&readkey=39327cf9e5ad88b570978353d2ce87f9
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Design Heating System Pipework Like a Pro
Переглядів 17 тис.21 день тому
#heating #systemdesign #heatpumps In this video, I show you how to design a heating system pipework like a true pro. We discuss the following topics: - heat loss calculations - how to read pump graphs - how to calculate pressure loss - how to size pipework - what software and apps I use to design my heating system The concepts discussed in this video are based on a real-life air source heat pum...
How Developers Are Ruining The Heat Pump Market
Переглядів 104 тис.Місяць тому
#heatgeek #heatpumps #mitsubishi In this video, Szymon (Urban Plumber) & Adam from Heat Geek visit a brand new development in Deepcut, Surrey to investigate why all of the heat pumps installed there provide a very poor performance. We talk to the residents trying to understand what went wrong with those installations and we also try to see what can be done to improve those systems. Installed un...
Urban Plumber & Chief Heat Geek Put The World To Rights
Переглядів 20 тис.2 місяці тому
#heatgeek #heatpump #renewableenergy In this episode, I take Adam Chapman from Heat Geek to Rye to visit a B&B running on 100% renewable heating and hot water with solar PV, heat pumps, and a couple of mixergy cylinders. Heat Geek UA-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@HeatGeek
Do Not Install Underfloor Heating With a Heat Pump Before Watching This Video
Переглядів 30 тис.2 місяці тому
#heatpump #ufh #heating In this video, we are looking at a heat pump installation in a high heat loss property with an underfloor heating system from Jupiter. jupiterunderfloorheating.com/
Your Underfloor Heating Could Be Better - Here Is How.
Переглядів 78 тис.3 місяці тому
#UFH #underfloorheating #radiantheating In this video, I show you how to bring your underfloor heating to a modern standard and how to make sure it will be compatible with a heat pump in the future.
My First Heat Pump Cascade & The Things That Always Let You Down.
Переглядів 55 тис.4 місяці тому
#nibe #cascade #heatpump My First ever cascade heat pump installation. Also, my first-ever NIBE heat pumps installation. Link to full system monitoring below: Both units: emoncms.org/app/view?name=TOTAL&readkey=a72728b217d080b1b6cd9964828f9875 Heat Pump 1 emoncms.org/app/view?name=ASHP1&readkey=a72728b217d080b1b6cd9964828f9875 Heat Pump 2 emoncms.org/app/view?name=ASHP2&readkey=a72728b217d080b1...
500% Efficient Heat Pumps - Are They Real?
Переглядів 52 тис.4 місяці тому
#heatpump #heating #efficiency My heat pump is now up and running. You can see its live performance on Open Energy Monitor right here: emoncms.org/app/view?name=MyHeatpump&readkey=01e597cf3496f263957c7e693b25388a
Electric Vans - Are They Any Good For Heating Engineers?
Переглядів 12 тис.4 місяці тому
#ev #electricvan #nissan In this video, we are checking if electric vans are suitable for heating engineers. Long-term review of a Nissan EN-V 200 electric van.
The Most Efficient Glow Worm Boiler in The UK?
Переглядів 34 тис.5 місяців тому
#glowworm #efficiency #heating In this video I show you just how efficient a weather-compensated and low-temperature heating with a gas boiler can be. Here, I hack my own Glow Worm boiler to work with Vaillant controls.
How To Install an Ultra Efficient Heating System - Heat Pump + UFH.
Переглядів 80 тис.6 місяців тому
#heatpump #airsourceheatpump #vaillant In this video, I take you through a full installation of a heating system with an air source heat pump and UFH throughout a property undergoing major renovations. For booking contact me here: www.urbanplumbers.co.uk/
Intergas Heat Pump Hybrid - The Easy Way To Clean Heating?
Переглядів 43 тис.7 місяців тому
#intergas #heatpump #hybrid In this video I am meeting with Tommy Jones from Alton & Jones Heating Solutions, to discuss the new and exciting heat pump hybrid from Intgeras, the so-called Intergas Xtend.
Heat Pump Installation During a Major Renovation Project - What Is Involved?
Переглядів 37 тис.8 місяців тому
#heatpump #airsourceheatpump #vaillant In this video, I take you through an air source heat pump retrofit. We are installing a 7kW unit into a 4-bedroom fully detached house including for: new radiators, new pipework, and full UFH to the ground floor. For booking please visit my website here: www.urbanplumbers.co.uk/
Heat Pump Nightmare Update - What Was Wrong With It?
Переглядів 28 тис.8 місяців тому
#heatpump #airsourceheatpump #grant I am going back to a heat pump that I repaired and re-piped 2 months ago, but still couldn't get the required flow rates through it. Link to the original video: ua-cam.com/video/Gn9huaryC_E/v-deo.htmlsi=qm03ucnvHuGUEZZQ Find out what was wrong with this 17kW Grant Air Source Heat Pump
Do We Need Buffers On Heat Pumps?
Переглядів 83 тис.8 місяців тому
#heatpump #buffer #lowlosheader Today we are doing a small experiment to see if buffers or low loss headers are really needed on heat pump installations.
Heat Pump Retrofit in a 1980s House: What's Involved?
Переглядів 83 тис.10 місяців тому
Heat Pump Retrofit in a 1980s House: What's Involved?
Heat Pump Installation Tips - Flexible Hoses Trick
Переглядів 24 тис.10 місяців тому
Heat Pump Installation Tips - Flexible Hoses Trick
Gas Boilers No Longer Make Sense, Here Is Why.
Переглядів 79 тис.10 місяців тому
Gas Boilers No Longer Make Sense, Here Is Why.
Heat Pump Retrofit In a Victorian House. Is It Even Possible?
Переглядів 62 тис.10 місяців тому
Heat Pump Retrofit In a Victorian House. Is It Even Possible?
Heat Pump Installation Nightmare - Can It Be Saved?
Переглядів 36 тис.11 місяців тому
Heat Pump Installation Nightmare - Can It Be Saved?
Installer Show - Should Gas Engineers Be Worried?
Переглядів 12 тис.11 місяців тому
Installer Show - Should Gas Engineers Be Worried?
New Vaillant ecoTEC Plus Boiler: Does it Live Up to the Hype?
Переглядів 43 тис.Рік тому
New Vaillant ecoTEC Plus Boiler: Does it Live Up to the Hype?
Unlocking Super Efficiency: Air Source Heat Pump Swap With Vaillant Arotherm.
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Unlocking Super Efficiency: Air Source Heat Pump Swap With Vaillant Arotherm.
Worcester Bosch CEO Is Wrong About Heat Pumps. Here Is Why.
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Worcester Bosch CEO Is Wrong About Heat Pumps. Here Is Why.
Who Said Heat Pumps Don't Work With Small Radiators?
Переглядів 34 тис.Рік тому
Who Said Heat Pumps Don't Work With Small Radiators?
The Cold Hard Facts: Winter Heat Pump Performance Results Are In!
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The Cold Hard Facts: Winter Heat Pump Performance Results Are In!
How to Install a Heat Pump That Works
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How to Install a Heat Pump That Works
How To Get Most From Your Vaillant Boiler.
Переглядів 42 тис.Рік тому
How To Get Most From Your Vaillant Boiler.
Learn How to Lower Gas Bills and Improve System Performance
Переглядів 57 тис.Рік тому
Learn How to Lower Gas Bills and Improve System Performance
The Boiler Upgrade I've Been Waiting For: Improved and Better Than Ever.
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The Boiler Upgrade I've Been Waiting For: Improved and Better Than Ever.

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @kyleb2044
    @kyleb2044 2 дні тому

    Over engineering makes more money. But what I think happened here mostly is that engineers copied and pasted previous jobs to save time, then they don't go through the new job thoroughly enough to make the proper modifications needed for this job. That explains the extra valving and thermostats in the same space, and probably the wildly oversized systems. Then the trades mostly just do what they're asked to do and move on to the next job. The engineer isn't usually involved as much after the initial bid, and even if they are, many don't like admitting their mistakes.

  • @AngusAbbott-qf8xm
    @AngusAbbott-qf8xm 2 дні тому

    I’ve been an electrician for 30 years and I understood all the information, so it must be a good explanation 👍🏼

  • @adrianbotos2819
    @adrianbotos2819 3 дні тому

    Hello. Very good content. Regarding the whisper-quiet heat pump, after my first winter with the arotherm plus, I can agrree it is quiet, except during defrosts or when running at 100%. And if you want to have few on/offs => not oversized Hp, you WILL run your HP at 100% when at outside desined temp of -3 outside (or -8C in my case).

  • @winteriscoming4379
    @winteriscoming4379 3 дні тому

    Hey, what do you think of residential MVHR systems. About to do a self build, approx 4000 sq ft and considering one as well as an air source heat pump system

  • @ciaranclose192
    @ciaranclose192 3 дні тому

    Fitted a vr940f with outdoor sensor and switched from 2 zone system to fully open circuit.. gas usage has dropped 20% according to my latest annual statement.. however i will need to change some single rads to doubles upstairs on the north facing rooms as they seem to struggle with the lower flow temperatures.

  • @stefanmalan5133
    @stefanmalan5133 3 дні тому

    Please give detail and describe all the appliences on the wall, for a new design what is all the components you used

  • @stefanmalan5133
    @stefanmalan5133 3 дні тому

    Please give detail and describe all the appliences on the wall, for a new design what is all the components you used

  • @justatiger6268
    @justatiger6268 3 дні тому

    6:20 People like this gentleman (and my silly self) understand investments in our home differently than most other 'throwaway' commodities. We're willing to spend more to get top efficiency.

  • @justatiger6268
    @justatiger6268 3 дні тому

    13 years is, honestly, not a long time for a heat source of a house. I want my unit to run for at least twenty years if not longer.

  • @justatiger6268
    @justatiger6268 5 днів тому

    I've had a ground-source heat pump for 3 winters now and very happy with it. However, I would be very curious to see what the actual SCOP it is achieving. What are the components needed? Can I integrate such a monitoring system in my Home Assistant? And what is that small box with the transparent housing to the right of the black Energy Monitoring unit on the wall at 9:50? Many thanks for the interesting video 👍

  • @michaelbarats7261
    @michaelbarats7261 5 днів тому

    Love to see your work. We are already 13 years telling clients not to do zoning, and we don't use buffer tanks. Use them only on very big systems where heat pump must have very high flow. Nice work, guys. I always enjoy watching you.

  • @TheYohtube
    @TheYohtube 6 днів тому

    In cold weather the ASHP may freeze if its working hard. Wigh no buffer where does it draw heat from when it reverses if there is no extra volume in the form of a low loss header or buffer? Having said that that im not sure if you design a buffer vessrl under the hot water storage as per old school???

  • @adydanner
    @adydanner 6 днів тому

    Hi just wondered whether you are still releasing the design files for the installtion? Really interested in the detail for this installation to help improve my knowledge. Thanks for all sharing your knowledge great videos.

  • @battlebroker
    @battlebroker 7 днів тому

    The heatpump will run 24/7 because if the r value of the walls, or a lot of on and off I got a similar system but the pipes are covered with a Knauf dry screed system 32mm thick than wooden floor. Works well with 80w /m2 temperature 40 C . Got a 800 litre combi buffer with solar thermal booster. Stores about 40kw hot water at 60C . Enough for 4 to 6 hours . i think the lack of insulation in the walls could be challenging.

  • @user-xk8fg8yg5e
    @user-xk8fg8yg5e 7 днів тому

    A properly calculated system! I am not anti-heat pumps in principle! But I have clients who have had a a heat pump installed (ie by cowboys!) only to have thrown it out after 1 winter in the Scottish highlands! I tend to advocate for a hybrid model ie with oil/gas and heat pump, controlled with weather compensation. I do agree follow the maths and the vast majority of the time heat pumps will satisfy most applications. Additionally a hybrid model will also provide heat and hot water in the event of heat pump or boiler failure/breakdown!

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf 8 днів тому

    I love these videos, explaining how simple it can be and the big part is heating the whole structure as one. It is crazy how this was done to every house.

  • @44cai
    @44cai 8 днів тому

    Great Video! When will you be putting a link to your workings up?

  • @TradersVue
    @TradersVue 8 днів тому

    Does a heat pump need a buffer vessel if doing UFH

  • @geraintroberts4611
    @geraintroberts4611 8 днів тому

    Im really starting to get into this heatpump installing after fitting combi's and earlier back boilers for 25 years. Ive recently done a bpec course to fit a heat pump. Which was a waste of a thousand pound. Would you recommend the heat geek course?

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 8 днів тому

      Yes, Hg is the only course worth doing

  • @AllenHart999
    @AllenHart999 9 днів тому

    That look like a terrible setup. At least the alpha one works. They are not bothered about their carbon footprint with a swimming pool in the garden. 😂

    • @BristolHeatPumps
      @BristolHeatPumps 9 днів тому

      The alpha hybrid is one of the worst hybrid setups out there.

    • @AllenHart999
      @AllenHart999 9 днів тому

      @@BristolHeatPumps the alpha one works, this one is a comedy sketch. Daikin one seems to work ok, anything but this. Let’s try and reduce our carbon while heating our pool 😂

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 8 днів тому

      It’s a decent set up and very popular in Netherlands - that Alpha is not even close.

    • @BristolHeatPumps
      @BristolHeatPumps 8 днів тому

      @@AllenHart999 what do you classify as “works” pretty broad range. If your talking about it being a good stepping stone into renewables and putting it against other manufacturers hybrid options its an absolute shambles.

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 8 днів тому

      @BristolHeatPumps radiators get hot mate - it works !

  • @Crogookah
    @Crogookah 9 днів тому

    Fantastic detailed overview of installation. Looking forward seeing you install a Heat Geek Mini Store and how it compares in the plant room.

  • @SimonIremonger
    @SimonIremonger 9 днів тому

    Little discrepancy puzzle, maybe you could enligthen us all on Design differences. Friends have a bungalow with oil-boiler in many ways similar to the above. When I look at radiator sizing using modern sizing calculators, and compare to heatgeek website, I find the sorts of radiator sizings you appear to use would be described as 45 degC not 40degC. I generally note, considering another house, trying to go to radiator sizings compared to heatgeek website for 40DegC seems to require giant type-22 radiators or many type-33 very expensive. Pipework sizing on heatgeek website suggests 2.75kW ok on 15mm pipe, whereas, another HeatGeek Elite, and H2X sizing system, both seem to suggest less than that. Can you shed light on why so many discrepancies to be found out there? With many thanks,

  • @marcozorzi6770
    @marcozorzi6770 9 днів тому

    Great video 🔝

  • @tozzer9440
    @tozzer9440 9 днів тому

    Do you have any videos of you fitting a heat pump with multiple underfloor heating manifolds and radiator circuit?

  • @apexjunky
    @apexjunky 9 днів тому

    Hi... I live in Ireland.... would you provide a system design only service?

  • @stuartbrock7586
    @stuartbrock7586 9 днів тому

    I will be installing heat pumps, however, I do not expect to be able to use them in the depth of winter as the temperatures get to -30 Celsius. At that temperature the heat pumps simply can't keep up.

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf 10 днів тому

    3 years ago, we moved from an LPG tank that the company now said was not allowed to be where it had sat for the last 50 years. So moved to ASHP and redid all the radiators as the others were the original and starting to go rusty. Thankfully got a fantastic RHI payment. I have a Midea ASHP and the app is bad, only counts in whole numbers for kWh usage and even though heating is off it claims it used 2 kWh for heating, rather than DHW. The house has been warmer and cheaper to run since having this ASHP fitted. Especially when used with a cheap overnight tariff! So I have just bought the Open Energy Monitor Kit and waiting for it to be installed. A video showing what parts are needing to be fitted and how it is fitted would be useful as nothing is out there that shows this. Also a ballpark figure for cost of fitting to an existing sytem would be helpful.

  • @fredmorozov
    @fredmorozov 10 днів тому

    Is there a rule or no. When you combining 3 d1 pipes it needs to be upsized? Say for 3 15mm d1 you need to upsize last tee to 22 and tundish will 22 to 28?

  • @zoedaflower9914
    @zoedaflower9914 10 днів тому

    What did you wrap around the pipe? this is literally my problem

  • @robbiedix6775
    @robbiedix6775 10 днів тому

    Piping looks very nice, electrics on the “plant room” looks like a dogs breakfast.

  • @willemdebest3237
    @willemdebest3237 11 днів тому

    How does it work in wintertime with -10C. ?

  • @davejohnston5158
    @davejohnston5158 11 днів тому

    Seriously? You could probably heat that bungalow on a diesel heater, heat recovery and up to date insulation levels

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 11 днів тому

      You really suggest that a family with kids runs a diesel heater? 😂 what part of: the tenants will pay zero bills is worse than a diesel heater?

  • @barrycrump6189
    @barrycrump6189 11 днів тому

    They will be freezing cold come the winter and the noise will drive them crazy. Air heat pumps do not work particularly well in this cold and damp country. Also, net zero is a complete con.

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 10 днів тому

      Works great on my house. Cost next to nothing to run. House is always warm and the unit is silent.

  • @mainleak
    @mainleak 11 днів тому

    Is that unit an r32 or 290

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 10 днів тому

      R290

    • @mainleak
      @mainleak 10 днів тому

      @@UrbanPlumbers the exclusion zone is just to big on the 290 going to prevent a lot of installations in my opinion

  • @bornnieqc9117
    @bornnieqc9117 11 днів тому

    Would love to see the calculations once you get around to sharing them. Great video as always!

  • @philreilly6959
    @philreilly6959 11 днів тому

    Great video. I really enjoy seeing how you go about your installations. Keep up the great work!

  • @flyerphil7708
    @flyerphil7708 11 днів тому

    Definitely not a no brainier , clickbait

    • @christianfaversham3766
      @christianfaversham3766 10 днів тому

      Do the maths yourself. Replace 25 year old kero combi boiler + System Flush + Replace rusty oil tank, less government BUS grant = £00.00 cost

  • @CaptainProton1
    @CaptainProton1 11 днів тому

    10% cheaper...ROI on that? I have heat pumps but I went air to air as it's an old farmhouse and too expensive to seal up, insulate add heat exchangers for fresh air flow.

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 10 днів тому

      Coupled with PV and battery storage it will be free to run.

  • @barriedear5990
    @barriedear5990 11 днів тому

    props to the landlord for adding the renewables. Can they charge a bit more rent for their investment which reduces tenants' energy bills?

  • @robertferguson4607
    @robertferguson4607 11 днів тому

    The Emperor's new clothes. Who would invest so much to heat a small bungalow?

    • @christianfaversham3766
      @christianfaversham3766 10 днів тому

      Replace 25 year old kero combi boiler + System Flush + Replace rusty oil tank, less government BUS grant = £00.00 cost

  • @paulhutchinson5695
    @paulhutchinson5695 11 днів тому

    Hmm, if the oil boiler had reached the end of its life may be yes heat pump but even then only because of the boiler improvement grant. If the oil boiler is still in good working order what would have been the reduction in running costs achieved by bringing it up to the same standard of insulation that you are putting in for the heat pump and adding modern weather compensated controls. I guess 20 % plus for very little capital outlay. The economics would then be such that you couldnt recover the capital costs of the heat pump within its 10 year life span. Of course at that 10 year point its likely than you will have to stump up the full cost of the replacement heat pump 4 times the cost of a replacement condensing oil boiler? I can see the value of heat pumps in mew installations but im afraid Im still unconvinced about conversions, by the way theres absolutely no way that the solar panels you can fit on that roof will generate enough electricity to power your heat pump through the winter either.

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 11 днів тому

      new oil boiler was the same cost as new heat pump

    • @paulhutchinson5695
      @paulhutchinson5695 11 днів тому

      @@UrbanPlumbers so the heat pump and new system came in at £1500 - 2500? What was wrong with the old boiler? Its very unusual for a condensing oil boiler not to be repairable. What happens when the heat pump compressor fails after 8 years and its not repairable? A heat pump system is certainly a consideration but its far from being a no brainer.

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 10 днів тому

      @paulhutchinson5695 new oil boiler supply and fit was 5-6k

  • @shifty277
    @shifty277 11 днів тому

    Thoroughly enjoying your content, approach and explanations for the last 2 years! Thank you big man! Thumbs up.

  • @syncrosimon
    @syncrosimon 11 днів тому

    Superb explanation thank you.

  • @syncrosimon
    @syncrosimon 11 днів тому

    Let’s hope the ashp lasts 20 years!

  • @jonnysegway7866
    @jonnysegway7866 11 днів тому

    A great install, but just for balance we both know that ASHP will not last 20 years, it will be obsolete in 3; your estimated SCOP is optomistic. Thermal efficiency of house will mean the cumulative heat loss due to running all day will weigh against it when compared to oil which will need roughly only an hour, at most, to heat that house up. Also kerosene is more than x4 cheaper than electricity.

    • @UrbanPlumbers
      @UrbanPlumbers 11 днів тому

      Average scop of all my 40 installs is 4.5 so not optimistic - realistic. 15 years lifespan no sweat on those.

    • @williamevans4283
      @williamevans4283 11 днів тому

      @jonnysegway7866 Most people in this country already own a couple of heat pumps and don't even know it, you probably do to. The heat pump in my fridge is still working after 18 years and it cycles a lot (by design). On for 20 mins off for 40 mins ... for the last 18 years. The heat pump in my 16 year old Volvo is just showing signs of needing a gas top up. Since I heat up my hot water cylinder on off peak electricity @16p / kWh at a COP of 2.5 (equivalent to 6.4p / kWh), oil would need to be @6.4p per kWh to match my heat pump. Oil is currently at 13.8p / kWh so 2x more expensive than my heat pump. I should add that my heating SCOP is over 4.

    • @christianfaversham3766
      @christianfaversham3766 10 днів тому

      Running a kero boiler system for 1 hour and 23 hours off doesn't warm the home. FYI on an 8.5p British Gas off peak EV tariff and a confirmed COP of 4.65 equals 1.8 pence per kilowatt hour, the best you could get from kero is 7p per kwh. Storing the EV tariff kwhs into a DIY battery storage you lose 10% still brings you under 2p per kwh. Of course if you have solar panels you don't buy in so much off the grid.

  • @NewsYourViews
    @NewsYourViews 11 днів тому

    But when you factor in 20 grand for the system. Not good.

    • @Biggest-hz7ng
      @Biggest-hz7ng 6 днів тому

      He states 5-6k for an oil boiler and fit. An extra 1k on this for the heat pump and radiators after grant. And then more for the batteries and solar separate.